4CTL Transformative Leadership Podcast
Transformative Leadership Starts with the 4Cs
Coming soon in 2026!
We’re planning a vibrant, engaging and deep learning-centred series of interviews with Dr Miranda Jefferson, Prof Michael Anderson, and a range of researchers and school leaders embodying the 4Cs in their lives and schools.
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Season One: Leading for School Transformation
This year (2026) Dr Miranda Jefferson and Professor Michael Anderson will release their long-awaited book, Leading for School Transformation. So we’ve decided to get them engaging with principals and researchers to unpack the themes of the book, helping bring the content alive with real world stories and practical advice.
Join 4CTL CEO, Jamie Gerlach, and other members of the 4CTL team, along with Miranda and Michael, and some extraordinary school leaders & academics.
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Season Two: Coming soon
We’re already planning what comes after our powerful season one theme of leading for school transformation. If you’ve got ideas on what would be helpful to hear, why not let us know here!